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Nietzsche & Women's Sexual Problems...

September 15th 2006 03:18
“When a woman becomes a scholar there is usually something wrong with her sexual organs.” - Friedrich Nietzsche

Geeze Nietzsche, get caught saying that in this modern era and you’ll be flattened by feminists everywhere! Friedrich Nietzsche died in 1900 so this quote probably didn’t cause any controversy as it was spoken in the 1800’s. But even so, just what was Nietzsche getting at when he said this? Did he believe that academically driven women don’t desire sex? Or that these women must actually have men’s sexual organs as it is only men that can become scholars?


Friedrich Nietzsche was a German philosopher who challenged the foundations of traditional morality and Christianity. He believed in the idea of "life-affirmation," where he questions the purpose of all doctrines which drain life's energies, however socially prevalent those views might be. So this might mean that he was against higher education and he probably was even more horrified that women would undertake such a useless endeavour.

Another quote which could support this existential view of the world is this one:

• “The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently”

Here’s a pretty controversial quote by Nietzsche who doesn’t seem to approve of priests:

• “As is well known, the priests are the most evil enemies--but why? Because they are the most impotent. It is because of their impotence that in them hatred grows to monstrous and uncanny proportions, to the most spiritual and poisonous kind of hatred. The truly great haters in the world history have always been priests; likewise the most ingenious haters: other kinds of spirit hardly come into consideration when compared with the spirit of priestly vengefulness.”


Gee, Nietzsche must have been a pretty interesting character!
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Comment by Justin

September 15th 2006 05:11
The early modern German thinkers really had it in for women it seems...
There's a close resemblance of the quotes to some of Freuds views, which if I didn't know slightly better, would confidently call them both total crackpots! lol

Comment by Ahmed

September 15th 2006 06:10
I don't think we should see what fredriech is saying as negatively. Given the time he said it at he quite possibly meant by 'something wrong with her sexual organs' that perhaps she didn't desire to have sex and raise a family which is what was thought of as appropriate of women at the time. He probably recognised the amount of work it took to work in a man's world and came to the conclusion ou can't raise a family like that, hence women who should be wanting to raise a family must have some sort of problem with her sexual organs...

I think what I just said was a bit ambiguous...

Comment by RachDegab

September 15th 2006 22:44
Nah that makes sense. But then wouldn't he have said 'reproductive organs' rather than sexual organs? I mean a woman can not desire sex and have problems with pleasurable sex but still be able to reproduce..

Or maybe he just wanted to spice things up a bit and thought the word 'sexual' would generate more internet traffic in 2006...? lol

RachDegab

Comment by Ahmed

September 16th 2006 00:43
How about just to get attention? The word sexual back then meant all that it means right now and maybe even worse.

Just because it was a while ago doesn't mean people where that much different.

I mean have you seen renaissance pornography? People think sex has reached a climax now, but let me tell you, they had some sick twisted ideas back in those days... and paint's to draw them with.

Comment by RachDegab

September 18th 2006 07:03
Never heard of renaissance pornography. What is it?
(try and use clean words!)

RachDegab

Comment by Ahmed

September 18th 2006 10:13
Oh I mean that there was a lot of nudity in renaissance paintings and I am very sure that they were considered as much for their 'artistic' value as well as their sexual ones.

If you look at paintings and these things of those times, even the michaelangelo statue, WOWHA, TOO MUCH DETAIL MATE!

Comment by Adrian

September 20th 2006 05:53
Hey, do you have a reference for that first Nietzsche quote? I wouldn't mind reading it in context.

Nietzsche is often quite ironic, or can easily be read that way. So it might well be a pro-feminist, not an anti-feminist, quote...

Comment by Anonymous

November 2nd 2008 19:36
i also want a reference for it.
cursory look on the net: nothing but the bare quote.

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